NEWS & TALKS

NEWS & TALKS

IMPORTANT - READ THIS FIRST !!!

It has come to be of necessity that I should begin to give those who are concerned some feedback of the responses of the visitors, critics and acquaintances. From time to time, I will add on to this page a progression of the happenings and opinions that may be reflective of the general sentiment towards the Biblical Patriarchal and Hebraic Christian movement of God worldwide. I must state that this is not a place of gossip or careless chat, which is but an abomination to God. It is for the edifying purpose stated above.

THERE IS A NEED TO ADDRESS
3 CLASSES OF PEOPLE

FIRSTLY, to the many who have been supportive and encouraging, I want to express my gratitude, knowing that I can never thank you enough. May the Lord increase you for standing by the convictions in your heart.

SECONDLY, in all humility, I wish to address another class of people, especially ministers. To such, I want to stress again that the emphasis of this website is on Biblical Patriarchy and Hebraic Christianity. Read the CHALLENGE page. Everyone is entitled to his conviction that he must be accountable to God for. However, I would humbly implore that you thoroughly read the materials presented on this site before you form any adverse opinion and I would appreciate your discussion and advice as a godly man of God would give. I have in all sincerity and truthfulness, with all the best I can, preach and teach these much needed truths as revealed to me, through this Website in the open, laying bare my life, testimony and ministries.

THIRDLY, I feel compelled to address another class, the presumptuous and hypocritical ones. To such who without thoroughly reading and understanding what are written herein, go around misquoting and abusing these materials in thoughtless conversations, mouthing unedifyingly to others, I remind you that you are not tolerated before God. In His eyes, you are but backbiters, Pharisees and Saduccees of these present days. At human level, you are neither tolerated for the act of libel, defamation and speaking derogatory remarks. Some may contend they have the right of free expression. But to such, I would venture to show you that the correct way is to first respond by scripturally challenging the views of this site and coming to a direct interaction with me. If you would not do this, but instead resort to ungodly gossiping and backbiting, I am compelled if necessary, for Kingdom’s sake, to challenge and expose you. Neither would I allow wolves to maliciously destroy the innocent in the Kingdom by abusing and misquoting the truths expounded herein. Before God and before men, I feel the responsibility to deal with those who mouth about in darkness concerning me and those others involved in my ministries.

This News & Talks page is not for gossiping, but for the above edifying purpose

NEWS

A Personal Statement On Polygamy

Steven John Butt's Visit To Our Ministries
Attack On 'Patriarchal Christianity'
E99-0506 A Question On Loyal And Faithful Men

E99-0514 Polygyny - A Thing Of The Past

AUGUST '97 - JULY '98

Todate (15 Aug '98), I have made known the writings of this site to ministers and acquaintances of general Christian faiths. Many have responded favorably, some with empathy, some feel that the teachings are radical and difficult to accept, some others did not respond, while a few think I am erroneous. Not in a prideful way I am saying, none (including vistors of this Website) has been able to conclusively prove that the writings are unscriptural and the teachings erroneous. Many are beginning to open up and to explore into the depths and scriptural validity of Biblical Patriarchy and Hebraic Christianity.

It’s already been about 1 year since the inauguration of this Website in August '97. Below is a summary of responses which represents the sentiment and guestures of the visitors. The traffic has been increasing traffic everyday. None of the emailers are anonymous. There have been only about 3 negative mails so far.

I have been studying Biblical Patriarchy for a while now and I find it fascinating... - EM,J-YHC (980323)

I'll visit your site more often now. It is an excellent work. - WT,AOLC (980617)

A big thanks for your wonderful advices and comments - I'll be editing the articles real soon. I really feel much for patriarchy and patriarchal polygamy because they are really the answers of life. I am glad to be able to contribute to the move of God. I want the people coming to your website to that you are not the only one shouting from the mountain top. They need to know that there are also many others fighting alongside with you, supporting the move of God. - Patriarchal Lady, EA,PNG (980723)

I am a born-again Christian, and through my personal belief and study of the Bible, have become convinced that Christian Patriarchy and plural marriage (polygyny) are correct and true ways in which the Lord God intends for his people to live and marry. - KB,AOLC (980626)

Listen my brother... you can't be saved by a Sinner Prayer. You must make contact with the Lord by Baptism. You did not say anything about being Baptised. You must go down in that water and touch the blood of Jesus in that water and come up a new creature in Christ. - MM,WAN (980617)

ANOTHER MINISTER RESPONDED DIFFERENTLY TO THE ARTICLE: THE WORLD GREATEST PRAYER

The poem at the end literally and honestly brought tears to my eyes, because of the Cross. How precious is the love of Jesus who died, died! died! hanging in toment (!!!) on the cross with nails THROUGH THE FLESH! That sacrifice is beyond mortal comprehension, especially considering the reality of: "why me"
O the depths of love that the Bridegroom has for His beloved Bride. How can we but cry in love for Him who first so profoundly loved us. - M,TSBC (970912)

I am interested in information on the history of monogamy in Christianity. That is how, why, when ect. monogamy came to be the rule. Any help you could send would be appreciated. - BB,WAOL

Answer: A much requested article. It is now completed (980719) Click here to it.

Just read your new articles on Wedding. Wonderful!
May I suggest one addition? Could you locate and post the wording of one or more sample Ketubah contracts in English, possibly modified a bit for us Christian Patriarchs? It seems a though that would make an additional excellent link from marriage.htm

Answer: Good suggestion. Will post in one that has been practiced.

Over the past 20 years I have seen many broken families, and being a very strong family man, it would hurt me to see this. I also come to realize that most of these women and children would have been better off as a plural wife, etc. It wasn't until the last year after studying the Bible and other info from the internet that I discovered that plural marriage wasn't a sin. When I brought this up with my wife she surprised me by telling me (always knew?) that I would be the knid of man to have and take care of more than one family - and then gave her blessing. (Note: We both knew it was not sexually motivated). - JB,J-SC. (970629)

Just a note of thanks for putting together such great set of pages. Also I am compiling a position paper on polygamy (it is poly positive) I have most of the scriptural work completed, but would like to trace how the Roman culture entered the church specifically. - WS,RSC (980506)

Answer: The article is now completed (980719), see also its bibliography. Click here to it.

You wrote: Answer me this first, What if God wants you to fulfill His call for your life, ministry and fimily at any price. Will you give it to Him. The answer is an unqualified Yes. .... I got back onto your site and read the biographical data (of yourself that) you presented. I understand more clearly why your question, "Are you willing to follow God regardless of the cost?" In that vein, I see you have a book on the subject. Something about the 7 ways God speaks. Is that book available either online or in hardcopy? Where and How much? - CW,HC (980511)

Answer: Book - Hearing God's Voice And Discerning The Counterfeit by Israel CS Lim. Hardcopy out of stock. Order: Online copy downloadable. Price US$15/-

I'm enjoying your site. I'm reading the entries on Patriarchy... I'm reading your chapter on monogamy. I have been studying everything I can find online or in paper on the subject of Monogamy vs. Polygamy. I am convinced polygamy is the answer, and I am called to polygamy. The conclusion is not based upon a desire for more and varied sex.... , and without feeling any loss of fidelity to my wife. - CW,HC (980505)

A very good morning to you! Sis M.. and myself have just visited your site. She was commenting that you're running very fast. We better run ... if not we'll be found standing in stupor. We talk particularly about denying ourselves, talking up the cross .... - B,M,G,PNS (980407)

I am really thrilled and encouraged even as I see the way my father has grown in the Lord. Just want to share this with you that you too might be encouraged by it.
First and foremost, I would really like to thank God for giving your study on Patriarchy and your willingness to bring it to your people. My family has been greatly blessed by it even as my father applies the teachings into our family life.
In fact, today, I just had a long talk with my dad and I was greatly encouraged and amazed to hear and see for myself how he has begun to lead my family patriarchily, in the ways of God. - JG,SCC (980316)

My Dearest Daddy, How are you getting on in life? I love you. You are very patriarchal. Thank you for your card. I will send you another card. It shall be very nice. - Love, Daughter, S,ESC (971219)

You people are truly backward really scary. The Bible was written in a dark backward age when people had barely grasped the concept of agriculture much less the true origin of life, ie natural selection. Why don't you people read some science, have you heard of DNA, Why are you wasting your time on this BULLSHIT? - A,AC (971209)
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I discovered your website a few weeks ago and I believe it is tremendous. It addresses some issues that I had intutively believed to be God ordained but could not out my finger on them. You helped me clarify some of these. Youe ministry is much needed. Keep up the good work. - Dr DS,BSN (980329)

You have done a lot of work to make a professional appearing site from which you can present God's message effectively! I comment you. - A,USA-N (980319)

For a few years now, God has been dealing with me to get into more of a patriarchal mode of living, so I have been pursuing Him in this area .... not just in my marriage, but in all areas of my life.
I believe as Christians, our focus should be on patriarchy. Polygamy flows from it in lives in which it is given.
I have got much to digest and am very, very excited about what God is doing worldwide with patriarchal Christians.
- Evangelist SB,K-AOL (971203)

Of course it does not require any proof that the Torah permits polygamy. King David, the beloved of G-d had 18 wives. - Rabbi TR,NNI (971109)

I just want to thank you for yesterday's teachings on husband and wife relationship. I thank God for a Pastor like you. I am very grateful for imparting to us all the wisdom and experience that you gained in 25 years of Christian walk. I thank God for that all these invaluable Patriarchal teachings have been sown in my heart even at this age of 18. I thank God that I do not need till I'm old and have gone through life the hard way before learning all these lessons. I thank God that I can start working towards becoming the Godly and Patriarchal woman that God so desired me to be. - LS,KS,PNS (970209)

I read your 10 reasons and liked most of what you said. Isn't it stunning how far the modern church is from the truth? 8 years ago, God spoke to me to take a second wife and I have been a polygamist Christian ever since. Having experienced the cruelty and lack of compassion of my "brothers in the Lord" I know now why the church is so despised by the unsaved. - MK,PWLN (971108 )

I just wanted to let you know that I made a link from my website to your article "The World's Greatest Prayer" I really thank God for all your articles on the website. It is really enlightening. I just read the article "IS MONOGAMY OF GOD?" and really learn a lot of hard facts of life that I thank God that He had given it to you to feed His people. I agree that women will be even more secured in patriarchy than in the world's system of one man and one woman marriage. - Patriarchal Lady, EA,P-N (971106)

Just a note to say we endorse your page... We are badly persecuted ... where homosexuality, orgies and every perversion imaginable is tolerated .... there is a red-hot hatred for plural marriage.
Your webpage was a great boost to my wives who said that for the first time they were in a "majority" against the world! - CCW,CON (970920 - 971005))

I am quite sure I need to get into the arena. If God is going to show me a good amount of revelation on this topic, I can't sit back and not do anything about it. I would be a coward if God set me free in this part of my life and I say He did not. I knew I needed to testify of it openly. - PMH,P-N (971001)

Great website!! It is very encouraging, informing and appreciated. I have a question .... Thank you for your time, keep up the great job you are doing!! - M,R-WN (970912)

Just read this at your site: 10 VITAL REASONS TO DECLARE THE TRUTH CONCERNING POLYGAMY.
Alleluia! Hallelujah! .... Powerful stuff! Preach it, brother! - M,TSBC (970912)

Greeting in the love of the Lord! I like what you've done on your site!.... And also, thank you for the LINK!
- M,TSBC (970904)

Just reading your excellent discussion. Noticed a spelling error you may want to fix... - CA,MHN (970903)

Congratulations on your site which seems to hit the nail on the head, as we say here in Britain. I propose to list you in the link section... - SC,H-CC (970831)

I just read your testimony on your webpage. It is full of the Spirit of God! It is truly a mighty witness to the treasures the Lord has entrusted to you and to us..., - SJB,GFM (970923)

Just visited your Homepage and finding it nice. And not just nice, but also a place that will lead others to the truth. Patriarchal Lady, - EA, P-N (970723)

I was just looking at your site again and it looks great! It is an excellent piece of work! You make me proud to be working with you!
I got to see the dream today. It's great! I see we have one heart, for the will of God and His Kingdom to rule over our the lives of our brothers and sisters.
I imagine you sense it, there is a more powerful anointing upon you... It comes through more powerfully in your writing. Praise His name - you are a mighty patriarch of God!
- SJB,GFM (970815)

I am very interested to know more about Patriarchal Order and Kingly Leadership. I do now know if you are planning to write more about it to be published in the Internet. - PMH,P-N (970628)